Travis Martin talks about and explains End Time prophesies in the Bible.
[00:00:07] Welcome back to another episode of The Vision Pod where guests are handpicked to bring value to your everyday life. Enjoy!
[00:00:27] Today I am here with
[00:00:29] Travis Martin. I met him in Cambodia and he is from North Carolina. He's a missionary in Cambodia right now.
[00:00:38] So yeah, do you want to start off by telling a little bit about your story?
[00:00:42] Yeah, yeah, like you said my name is Travis Martin from Charlotte, North Carolina.
[00:00:48] I grew up in a Christian home, but
[00:00:52] never really bought into that necessarily kind of straight off a modern path and decided that I would I wanted to live in the world and have fun and
[00:01:01] started doing drugs. I started selling drugs, got into drug trafficking,
[00:01:07] really got in deep, pulled into that. You know, I'm not even going into a lot of detail about that. It was a really dark time in my life.
[00:01:13] I was addicted to a lot of drugs and a lot of things.
[00:01:17] In that darkness, you know, I cried out to God and I asked God,
[00:01:22] you know, if you can give me out of this, if you make a way, I'll give my life to you and I'll serve you in this.
[00:01:27] That's exactly what I got to do. He moved on that prayer and
[00:01:31] he made a way for me to get out and get away from his drug billers and all this
[00:01:35] drug trafficking and he helped me walk through my addiction and he set me free and
[00:01:41] through that,
[00:01:42] after I was set free, I served for a little while in a ministry called Living Free and
[00:01:49] after Living Free, I went to a place called The Lambs House where I went through there. It's a transitional Christian transitional home and
[00:01:56] then from there, I stayed on as the house man as the leader and I served there for a while and
[00:02:03] yeah, that's what ended up leading me to Cambodia. I ended up meeting a mentor at The Lambs House.
[00:02:10] He ended up, I needed a job at The Lambs House. My time was done there and it was time for me to move on
[00:02:15] and I needed a job and I had two options.
[00:02:20] I had a really good job making more money and then I had a job at Dexco with the mentors from The Lambs House.
[00:02:27] He's a great guy.
[00:02:28] Danny Lainley was his name, super good Christian guy and he said, why don't you come work for Dexco?
[00:02:33] I said, let me pray about it.
[00:02:35] Obviously, I prayed about it and God told me to take less money and I was like, all right, you know,
[00:02:40] so I took the job that didn't have all the benefits and all the money and I ended up working at Dexco and
[00:02:47] when I got to Dexco, the owner was also a Christian, a good man.
[00:02:52] He had actually done missions in Cambodia, which I would later find out. I didn't know it at first.
[00:02:58] So I worked at Dexco and in that time,
[00:03:00] it was kind of a period of like, Lord, you called me to the ministry.
[00:03:04] Why am I just sitting here working in a factory, you know, in a machine shop, running a machine?
[00:03:09] I want to do ministry and, you know, God told me to be still. Just wait, be still.
[00:03:16] I didn't know what God had planned. I didn't know that I would come to Cambodia.
[00:03:20] I just know that I wanted to serve God and in that time, there was a man from Cambodia
[00:03:26] that worked there named Domson and so he was working there. He got to know each other.
[00:03:32] We were working together, God put us together every day. We would talk about being Christians
[00:03:35] and serving and he actually was a missionary in Cambodia and so he had a special needs challenge.
[00:03:42] So he had to come to Cambodia for like three months intervals, maybe two or three months at a time
[00:03:47] and so then he would come and work at our place and so I got to know him pretty well
[00:03:52] and he asked me, he said, why don't you come to Cambodia on a mission trip?
[00:03:56] I said, I would love to. That would be amazing. So I ended up going to Cambodia
[00:04:00] and for two weeks when I was in Cambodia, I really fell in love with the people here.
[00:04:06] Cambodia is a wonderful country. The people are very friendly, very down to earth, very welcoming,
[00:04:12] going out to the villages, seeing all the poor people.
[00:04:16] You know, they didn't have much but they were happy and I was like, man, this is incredible.
[00:04:19] See them such, such little they have so little and they're so happy
[00:04:24] and they were so nice and they would even give us stuff. I was so they wanted to give us fruit
[00:04:28] and give us stuff. I'm like, man, I should be given you stuff like it, you know, they had so
[00:04:33] little and so in that time I fell in love with Cambodia and so I prayed. I said, God,
[00:04:39] if you want me to come to Cambodia, I need you to show me a sign in the heaven side.
[00:04:45] And well, I was going through some of my pictures and sure enough, there was a picture of a cross
[00:04:51] with the sun behind it. It was a pole, like a light pole and it had a cloud that lined up
[00:04:58] behind it and it made the shape of a cross with the light. The sun was behind it. It was
[00:05:02] like a light behind it and I knew I knew that was that was God saying, yeah, come on.
[00:05:07] Cool. That's what I did. I went home. I
[00:05:13] barely started getting prepared to come back. I put my notice in at my job. I did a three month
[00:05:19] notice, you know, letting know that I was going to be going to Cambodia. He was they hated to
[00:05:24] see me go. I really love the owner of my company. I've gotten really close with him. He's a good
[00:05:28] man and he hated to see me go but he could tell God had spoke to me and then I had a
[00:05:34] call him. He was thankful that I was going to walk their column out and yeah, started saving
[00:05:38] up money, selling my things, getting prepared and then yeah, came to Cambodia where I met now.
[00:05:45] That's how I met Judah of course. Yeah. And it's been a blessing. So thankful to be here
[00:05:51] in Cambodia. God's been so good to me doing ministry here in Cambodia as well.
[00:05:58] So when I get to Cambodia, I got a one way ticket and I just said, all right, God,
[00:06:02] I'm going to follow you. So I kind of let the Holy Spirit lead. When I got here, I met a
[00:06:08] one pastor named Pastor Wootee and his wife's great mom and so they were very kind to me.
[00:06:14] I didn't really know a lot of people because the guy I come with, he was back in the United
[00:06:18] States. He wasn't coming back yet and he had to take care of stuff. So I had to come. I
[00:06:23] come a month and I started praying and I was like, Lord, I need you to leave me somewhere
[00:06:27] where I can serve here in Cambodia. He lead me to the right people and
[00:06:31] Pastor Wootee, he recommended that I go to an international church somewhere where they
[00:06:36] speak English and talk and learn the language and sure enough, he told me to go to Victory
[00:06:40] Church. He knew an American missionary who got married there and so he recommended I go to
[00:06:46] Victory Church and that's what I did. I showed up the Victory Church on a Sunday.
[00:06:51] It was a great service. As soon as I walked onto the property, I felt the spirit.
[00:06:56] I knew that there was something here. God had something here for me and there was a sign above
[00:07:01] the door said, entered his gates for thanksgiving and praise and I love that verse in the Psalms.
[00:07:07] I was just like, oh man, you know, I always start my prayers off with thanksgiving and praise
[00:07:11] that only stuck with me and I just felt good about it. So I come to Victory,
[00:07:16] an incredible worship service, powerful message. Pastor Wootee was here. He's a good man.
[00:07:22] We talked a little bit after church. We exchanged numbers on Telegram. That's how people communicate
[00:07:27] here in Cambodia, very popular. The next day, Pastor Ralph, he contacts me and says,
[00:07:34] hey, what are you doing? I was like, nothing. He said, let's get up and have some coffee.
[00:07:39] I said, sure, yeah, let's do it. I sat down with Pastor Ralph. We had a great conversation.
[00:07:45] We really talked about ministry. He could tell that I told him I come here to serve and
[00:07:50] yeah, that's where it all started. The door opened up and we served. Now I'm here at Fifth
[00:07:54] Church. I live at the church and I serve alongside Pastor Ralph Wootee and Pastor Sam.
[00:08:01] And yeah, it's been an absolute blessing. This is such a good church. And Pastor Ralph is such
[00:08:05] a good pastor. I'm so thankful for having me to work in helping me learn how to minister
[00:08:10] to the Cambodian people, learn the culture and how things work. Yeah, it's been a blessing.
[00:08:16] Yeah, it's pretty incredible the building. It just is a sense of
[00:08:21] like peace there for sure in that church. Yeah. So you are big into eschatology and
[00:08:29] researching about the end times. Do you want to kind of say why you think it's coming up right away?
[00:08:40] Yeah, yeah. I do believe it's at the door. Several reasons Jesus gives us signs that we are to look
[00:08:49] for of the end times. Number one, he says, do not be deceived. You know, that's a warning that
[00:08:57] we're not to be deceived to keep. And so he warns us that there's going to be earthquakes,
[00:09:05] there's going to be wars, rumors of wars. There's going to be nation rising against nation kingdom
[00:09:10] against kingdom, famine, pestilence and look it says there'll be the perplexity of nations,
[00:09:17] the boring of the sea, there'll be signs in the heavens. And we're actually seeing these things
[00:09:23] take place like never before. I keep up with a lot of world news, world events.
[00:09:28] Earthquakes have always happened, wars have always happened obviously and we know that. But
[00:09:34] at the rate things are happening now and the intensity is getting more intense. So
[00:09:38] earthquakes are happening more frequent and they're more intense when they do happen.
[00:09:43] That is definitely, you know, you couldn't look into that. That's happening way more.
[00:09:48] The storms, the roaring of the seas, we are seeing massive flooding all over the world. We're
[00:09:54] seeing incredible hurricanes right now, for instance, in my country in America.
[00:09:59] Florida is getting hit with the category four. It's just set a record. It's one of the strongest
[00:10:04] hurricanes ever, you know, to hit and it's been a long time since it's been stormed that strong.
[00:10:11] Also we, the tornado season in my country was just unheard of. It was record breaking
[00:10:17] tornadoes. We're seeing flooding all over the world like we've never seen before.
[00:10:21] And you'll notice in the news, when I watch the news, they always say sometimes
[00:10:26] flooding of biblical proportion. You know, they're referring to the Bible. And I always find that
[00:10:31] interesting because obviously there was a great flood in the Bible and the Bible talks
[00:10:36] about this stuff coming. So also the wars. So right now there's a lot of words going on.
[00:10:43] The first seal of revelation is the seal of concrete. So the seal was broken and the
[00:10:49] writer of the wars has given a crown and authority to go out and conquer. So I believe that is
[00:10:54] more than likely a symbol of a nation being given authority to conquer, whether that's Russia or
[00:10:59] Israel, both nations at this time are in wars and conquering as well as other wars going on as well
[00:11:05] in Myanmar and parts of Africa. There's all kinds of uprising all over the world. So we really see
[00:11:11] the nations in term. We see a lot of wars rumors award, but there's more words to come.
[00:11:17] You know, there's a lot of rumors, but I didn't believe the next step would be nationalizing against
[00:11:22] nation and kingdom against kingdom. And so we will see World War three, which is all of these wars
[00:11:30] are going to lead into that. So right now Israel has went to war with Gaza. Right now they're at
[00:11:35] war with test ballad. They they're invading Lebanon. They're about to put ground forces down.
[00:11:41] Russia is also at war with Ukraine. And so Ukraine just met with the United States and we're seeing that
[00:11:48] it looks like they're going to be given permission to strike Russia deeper within Russia.
[00:11:52] And Russia said if they do that, that's that's basically declaring war in the Himalayan
[00:11:56] attack NATO. And so we're really seeing the limits be pushed like never before. We're on the
[00:12:02] brink of a war. China is ready to take time one day or constantly training and preparing to
[00:12:08] take time one. They're doing drills. North Korea also wants to conquer South Korea. They're also
[00:12:14] claiming that they have land. And the interesting thing is all these nations are claiming land and
[00:12:20] they're going to conquer. So right now we're at a stage of conquering. So next, you know,
[00:12:26] we will see World War three. I believe that would be the next seal, the second rider,
[00:12:31] which is the Red Horse. I do believe that that would be World War three piece has taken off
[00:12:36] the earth. So when peace is taken off the earth, I believe that will be when nation rises against
[00:12:41] nation, kingdom against kingdom. And the word for nation there is ethnos. And so that means
[00:12:47] us ethnicity. That means races rising against each other. So people to be fighting within
[00:12:52] the countries as well, as well as kingdom against kingdom. We'll see World War three
[00:12:57] is happening. But I do believe there will be civil wars and all kinds of wars all over
[00:13:02] the world at this time. And I do believe we're getting close to that. We don't know the exact
[00:13:07] timing of everything, but like Jesus said, watch and be ready. And so Jesus wants us to watch.
[00:13:13] We seek the sciences given us. We see what's going on. And so we just prayerfully watch
[00:13:17] and pray and seek the Lord Jesus and seek guidance and just be prepared. But one of
[00:13:22] the main things Jesus also said was when you see these things, don't worry. As God's people,
[00:13:27] we're not going to worry about these things because God has to see will protect us and
[00:13:30] he will be with us. And so that's one of the main things when I talk about it,
[00:13:34] anytime is always one stress is don't worry. God is with his people. He always have been
[00:13:38] and he always will be whatever we go through, he will get us through the Holy Spirit will
[00:13:43] be with us. He will empower us and he will protect us. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, another
[00:13:48] another big one I remember hearing about was that when Israel is surrounded by armies,
[00:13:54] the end is near. Yes, yes. And this is actually getting close to that because now recently,
[00:14:03] Iran and Hezbollah and all the Arab nations just met and they met the council against Israel
[00:14:10] when the world was Israel. And so we're starting to see that Turkey as well as back.
[00:14:15] They're wanting to lead NATO and they're kind of siding with Briggs and Russia
[00:14:18] and that little conglomerate they got going there. And so we're going to see Turkey probably as well
[00:14:25] as wanting to invade Israel, you know, and Iran is really trying to put together all the countries
[00:14:31] around Israel, Egypt as well. They did have a peace treaty, but I feel like they're really
[00:14:37] Egypt's really pushing to get out of that now. They're really wanting to come against
[00:14:41] Israel as well. So I do believe that all these countries are going to come and surround
[00:14:46] Israel for sure. And I do believe it's pretty close. Israel was bragging out war with Hezbollah,
[00:14:52] but there's going to be other countries joining in by the against them. So yeah, for sure.
[00:14:59] Yeah, at the beginning of a lot of the end times prophecies, it says, do not be deceived.
[00:15:06] What are some ways that you think they'll be deceiving? Some of the deception,
[00:15:13] there's a lot of opinions on different scriptures and things, but one of the greatest
[00:15:18] exceptions right now that I see is that Israel, the physical nation of Israel is still God's people.
[00:15:27] The problem with that is that the old covenant Israel
[00:15:32] is over, the old covenants over. And so Hebrews makes that clear that now
[00:15:37] we have a better covenant and so the old covenants over. And so just because people
[00:15:41] live in that land right now and does not mean that they are God's people, it does not mean they
[00:15:46] can be God's people. They are always welcome to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. When God says
[00:15:52] that he's going to regather the people, that will be in the millennial kingdom. He will
[00:15:57] regather them. There's a remnant that will be there that he will fulfill and give them that
[00:16:02] land. He will fulfill that prophecy. But right now Satan knows that. And so Jesus is coming
[00:16:09] to fulfill that prophecy. Jesus in the millennial kingdom will give them that land. He will give
[00:16:13] them the millennial temple where they will be there. And so that's going to be after Jesus comes
[00:16:20] back, he will fulfill those prophecies. So what Satan is doing is he is convincing people, especially
[00:16:26] in the church, that the political Zionist movement that is in Israel, that they are of God. They're
[00:16:32] God's people. This is their land. God's regathered them back and given them their land. The
[00:16:38] problem with God regathering them back to that land is that they never repented. God's the one who
[00:16:43] scattered them. They killed Jesus. The temple was destroyed. The sacrificial system is over. And so
[00:16:49] they never repented of what they did. They killed Jesus. They killed the Son of God. They never
[00:16:54] repented. So obviously God has not regathered them back. And so Satan has convinced people
[00:17:00] that God has regathered this nation back together. He's going to mimic prophecies and
[00:17:07] make it appear that the Antichrist is fulfilling prophecies. Because when the Antichrist comes,
[00:17:13] he comes as the Son of God. He will come and claim to be God. People say I am the Son of God.
[00:17:18] He will claim to be the Messiah of the Jews because the Jews have rejected their Messiah
[00:17:22] Jesus. And as Christians we know that we know Jesus was the Messiah. They have rejected that.
[00:17:28] So they are waiting on their Messiah which will be the Antichrist and they're making
[00:17:33] preparations for him. At this time they are building a third temple. They are making
[00:17:39] preparations there. And so the deception is going to be that the Antichrist is going to
[00:17:44] make people think that he is God. God is there with his people. God has resurrected Israel,
[00:17:52] regathered them back and he's done it through the Antichrist. And so the Antichrist is going
[00:17:57] to appear to be this inside the Savior of the world. And a lot of Christians are going to buy
[00:18:01] into it because they are going to think, well how would Israel thrive right now? There is peace there.
[00:18:07] And he has brought all these people together. And so Satan is going to use that as a deception
[00:18:13] to trick people. And he is even going to deceive a lot of Christians, believe it or not.
[00:18:17] Another thing that is the preacher of rapture. The preacher of rapture was never taught by
[00:18:23] the early church. Jesus tells you in Matthew 24, he says immediately after the tribulation
[00:18:29] I will come in the cloud together, my Lord. Jesus tells us when he is coming back,
[00:18:33] it's after the tribulation the church is going to go to the tribulation. God will be with us and
[00:18:40] then he will come in the clouds and gather us together. So the Antichrist,
[00:18:45] the spirit of Antichrist is Satan because to see the church and to think that there is a preacher
[00:18:49] of rapture. So Jesus is going to come get us, take us out of here before the tribulation. We don't
[00:18:58] happen. The Antichrist is going to use that. He's going to say, where are you Jesus? Where is it?
[00:19:02] Why didn't he come get you? Jesus didn't come get you. Here I am setting up gods, temples with
[00:19:09] God's people. I'm here. The Antichrist is going to be able to do all kinds of miracles. He's
[00:19:13] going to have magical powers. He's going to be able to blow people's minds. It's going to be
[00:19:17] the greatest deception we've ever seen. And I don't think people are prepared for that. I
[00:19:22] think that really this guy is going to appear to have a lot of great wisdom. He's going
[00:19:25] to speak very well. He's going to be very charismatic. There'll be a lot of Christian leaders like the
[00:19:31] Pope and big church leaders and things and different religious leaders from all over the world will
[00:19:36] come and gather to him and meet with him. And he will, he will see them. They will all end up
[00:19:41] giving him their kingdoms and he will form a one wrong religion where he is the center of it.
[00:19:46] And I believe that a lot of people are going to be deceived. Two of those teachings,
[00:19:51] like I told you, preacher rapture, dispensationalism, it's going to really,
[00:19:56] it's going to do a number on people because they're going to be like, wow, where is Jesus?
[00:19:59] Why didn't he come for us? You know, and they're going to be offended and hurt.
[00:20:05] Yeah. Yeah, it's unfortunate. I know even in,
[00:20:10] I think it's second Thessalonians, the churches worried that Jesus came back and they,
[00:20:17] they were still left, but Paul clearly says that these things have to happen before Jesus comes
[00:20:26] back. And so he kind of already, he kind of already disproved that, but yeah, it's just
[00:20:34] very common teaching right now. Yeah, it is. It's, it was spread to the church because
[00:20:41] there was a man named John Nelson Darby in the late 1800s. He's the godfather of the preacher, rapture,
[00:20:49] dispensationalism, because both of those teachings kind of go together. You really, you have to have
[00:20:53] a buzz from the word. And so John Nelson Darby was in the clinic for a year and he ended up
[00:20:59] meeting up with a Scofield basically bought into his teachings. And so they work together.
[00:21:04] And basically there was a Scofield reference Bible. It was like one of the first study
[00:21:10] Bibles to have little study notes in different things. And so Scofield had a lot of money.
[00:21:16] And so basically he took this Scofield Bible and he sent them to all the seminaries. And so
[00:21:22] you have all these young men who are wanting to be pastors, they're seeking the Lord and study,
[00:21:27] and they go to Bible school and they're given this Scofield reference Bible. So,
[00:21:31] you know, they're young, they're naive, they're thinking, wow, this is some scholarly notes
[00:21:35] here in this Bible. What do they do? They, what is in there is a dispensationalism
[00:21:40] of the preacher raptor. So that's how that teaching spread so rampant through America,
[00:21:44] because America was where it all really took root. And so basically it was spread throughout
[00:21:51] all of the church. There's very few people nowadays who believe what I believe which would be
[00:21:56] pre-wrapped. And it's very unfortunate. You know, that was that was our early position
[00:22:01] of the church. If you read a lot of the church fathers, they were pre-wrapped. We're not
[00:22:06] also, we're not appointed to God's wrath. And so the problem is that they mistake the seven-year
[00:22:14] tribulation or the seven seals being practiced as God's wrath, but it's not. At the sixth seal,
[00:22:22] it actually says that's when God's wrath starts and revelation. And it tells you this is the
[00:22:27] wrath of God has come basically. And so you know that that's the start of the wrath of God.
[00:22:32] And so basically that's when pre-wrapped is where we believe in pre-wrapped camp that Jesus will come
[00:22:41] and gather his church, but right before God's wrath starts because Jesus said that just as in the
[00:22:48] days of Noah, so would be in the end. And so as soon as the rain comes, God pulls his people out,
[00:22:56] you know, and as soon as his people are saved, the wrath comes, the rain came. Same thing is that he
[00:23:02] said it would be in the day of the watch. So in the lot, when he was in Sodom, as soon as his family
[00:23:07] was out of the city, the fire was already coming down behind them. And of course his wife looked
[00:23:13] back and was turning for a pillar of salt. Yeah, so as soon as God's people are taken away,
[00:23:20] then the wrath of God comes. And that's exactly what's going to happen after the sixth seal.
[00:23:26] It says just the day of God's wrath and it actually got that seal. It says that the sun is darkened and
[00:23:31] the moon has turned to blood. And also Jesus said when you see that sign to look up for your
[00:23:37] redemption draws nigh, and that's in Luke, I believe or Mark, it says that. And so Jesus is saying
[00:23:43] when you see this look up, your redemption draws nigh. And then you go back to Joel,
[00:23:47] and Joel prophesied about the same thing that's called the day of Lord. That's the day
[00:23:51] when God returns and his wrath comes. And right before that Joel says the sun will be darkened,
[00:23:57] the moon will turn to blood. And so if you put those three together, you realize that that's
[00:24:02] exactly when Jesus comes right after that. Yeah, I got a question here. It says now learn the
[00:24:11] lesson of the fig tree. I'm wondering what, because when the twigs tender and its leaves
[00:24:17] come out, you know summer is near. I'm wondering if you kind of have any insight towards that verse?
[00:24:26] Yeah, so the parable of the fig tree is interesting. We just said learn the parable of the fig tree. And
[00:24:34] so Jesus is telling us that we need to learn this. This is important. And so when you see the leaves
[00:24:40] on the fig tree, you see that it's time for it to put forth fruit. And this is the same way in
[00:24:46] the end. The fig tree is a symbol of Israel. And so the fig tree being a symbol of Israel,
[00:24:53] we see that when Israel become a nation in 1948, that the tree, the fig tree,
[00:25:01] is about to give forth fruit. And so it will be a generation from that time. That is the last
[00:25:09] generation when you see that. And so a generation would be about 80 years in song 90. It says that
[00:25:17] a generation 70 years, but a strong generation can be 80. And so if you count, you know,
[00:25:23] 80 years from that, we're coming up on that. That's going to be some people say 2028,
[00:25:28] some people counted from 1950 when Jerusalem became the capital that'll be 2030. So honestly,
[00:25:34] depending on the dates and stuff, you know, that's a time to look out for the variable,
[00:25:39] the fig tree, something that we need to really consider because when Israel become a nation,
[00:25:43] I believe that that's that's the countdown of the last generation.
[00:25:48] Okay, for sure. So what would you say? What do you think the tribulation is going to look like?
[00:25:57] The tribulation. I think that with the seals being broke, I think that obviously
[00:26:04] part of the antichrist being able to be the hero is Satan has to bring about chaos in the world.
[00:26:10] And so I think that the seals being broken is the chaos that Satan is going to,
[00:26:15] he's allowed to bring about. I think obviously Jesus is breaking the seals and these things are
[00:26:19] allowed. It says that the first horseman authority is given to him to conquer. So
[00:26:23] it clearly authority has been given to him, whether it be from Satan or, you know,
[00:26:28] obviously God is the ultimate authority. So God is allowing these things to happen.
[00:26:32] So there's going to be chaos brought about in the world like never before.
[00:26:36] Obviously Satan is always bringing about chaos, but there is God always kind of holds him back.
[00:26:41] He does not just allow Satan to do whatever he wants, you know, he, Satan's allowed to do only
[00:26:45] so much. And so the time is coming when the time is short and Satan is basically given a go at
[00:26:52] it. And so the first seal of force wars conquering, then you're going to have peace
[00:26:59] taken off the earth. So there's going to be a lot of violence and fighting right now before
[00:27:04] horse next, you'll have famines. There'll be the rider on the fourth floors.
[00:27:09] There'll be basically pestilence coming, famines. He's able to kill the sword. It also says that
[00:27:15] while the beast will attack people. And so it'd be kind of like a four-ball thing going on there.
[00:27:20] And so I think it's going to be a time of chaos. Like we've never seen. I think there'll be
[00:27:25] animals coming out attacking people. There'll be violence in the streets. There'll be wars going on.
[00:27:30] There's going to be food shortages. There'll be sicknesses. People will be getting all kinds of
[00:27:34] different deceitants and sicknesses and things. And it's going to be all chaos. And I believe
[00:27:40] through that is when the antichrist will come and he'll come as the hero. He's going to come
[00:27:46] as a good guy. He's going to come to bring peace. He's going to come to bring healing to the
[00:27:50] nations, to people. He's going to come and set up his kingdom. And he's going to come and put it
[00:27:55] into all the religions fighting. He's going to appear to have all the answers. And he's going to bring
[00:28:01] in the order out of chaos, so to speak, which Satan brings the chaos and he's going to bring
[00:28:06] the order. And so when he comes, he will come to see and he will come about as that.
[00:28:13] Now once he comes, obviously, we know that there will be only a short time of peace. It
[00:28:18] won't last. He's a liar and a deceiver. And of course, once the other seals are broken, the last
[00:28:24] two, then you're going to have the trumpets and the bold judgments which come. And so that's
[00:28:29] going to be, that's God's wrath. That's going to be a whole different element of destruction.
[00:28:35] May God have mercy on Salchus. Anybody who's called up in God's wrath is going to be really bad.
[00:28:41] But the good thing is that we will be protected by God. God will be with his people.
[00:28:48] And I really wish people would understand that and truly be rooted in true faith with God
[00:28:53] and have the faith of Joshua and have the faith of Caleb and the faith of David. And these,
[00:28:58] we read all these stories in the Old Testament to the Bible. You know, Joshua and Caleb, they go
[00:29:03] out to spy on the land. There's these giants there. Everybody's terrified. And Joshua and
[00:29:08] Caleb, if you kid me, let's go get them. This is our land being a God. They're ready to go
[00:29:16] to the land. And we're going to be rooted in that kind of faith and just know that like,
[00:29:20] we're a child of, we're the children of God. He's got us no matter what. He is a shield
[00:29:25] of protection for us. He's our refuge. He will watch over us. He will protect us supernaturally.
[00:29:32] It need be nothing can take us out of this world until he says so. He's the one in charge.
[00:29:37] No one else. No one else is in charge. God is. And so we have to understand that and be
[00:29:42] rooted in that kind of faith. And even if we are called to be a martyr or recalled to
[00:29:46] be put through stuff, God will be with us. He will give us through it. He will give us strength.
[00:29:51] He will give us supernatural power to get through that suffering, whatever it is, you know, and
[00:29:56] you read stories in the Old Testament, you know, Daniel in the limestan and Shad Rack,
[00:30:01] me shack and a bed to go, you know, where the fire didn't burn and stuff. But you also,
[00:30:06] if you read like Fox's book of martyrs or your research, a lot of the martyrs
[00:30:11] for instance, Pauli Clark was going to be burned to death and God's sitting in a dream and said,
[00:30:16] you're going to be burned to death. And you know, he wanted that. He thought it was a great honor
[00:30:21] to be able to die. Peter thought it was, you know, what a great honor the disciples said,
[00:30:27] it was a great honor to die. Peter even asked to be crucified upside down because he did not
[00:30:32] feel worthy to be crucified in the manner of the hands of Lord Jesus had been crucified.
[00:30:36] And so we see this radical faith of the early church and I really think that we really need
[00:30:42] to have that kind of faith to ask on, to give us a measure of faith like that and be able to get
[00:30:47] through this. I think the church is about to go through a time like never before,
[00:30:54] time of trials and tribulations and we're going to need each other. We're going to need
[00:30:59] the body of Christ around us and we're going to need to be rooted in Christ
[00:31:03] and to have real genuine faith that we trust God, no matter what.
[00:31:10] Yeah, I remember at the end of Daniel like it was, it talks about lots of people coming to
[00:31:17] Christ in the end as well. That's a good place to hope for sure. Thanks for coming on Travis,
[00:31:22] I really appreciate it. Yeah, it's going to be a good episode.
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